05 Important facts (rec.music.industrial)
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This article is from the Industrial music FAQ, by Darrell Fuhriman darrell@efn.org with numerous contributions by others.
05 Important facts (rec.music.industrial)
* The ADRV in Crash Worship's name stands for "Adoracion de Rotura
Violenta," which more or less means "Crash Worship" in Spanish.
* No member of Front 242 is a member of Bigod 20. Jean-Luc DeMeyer,
the lead singer of Front 242, was a guest on Bigod 20's song 'The
Bog,' and he sang it and wrote the lyrics. Aside from the
similarities in the two bands' music, this is the only direct
connection between the two bands. (And also the fact that they are
five-letter words followed by numbers.)
* There is some confusion over what is at the end of Front 242's
album TYRANNY FOR YOU. According to Transmission 242
originally,the songs were called simply 'Bonus Track I' and 'Bonus
Track II.' However, upon further prodding, they replied that the
pieces do have titles. The first one is called 'Hard Rock.' The
second one, according to the letter received, is called 'Trigger
3.' However, it is believed that this is a misprint, and instead
it should be called 'Trigger 1,' because the band had released a
(longer) song also called 'Trigger 3' on one of their TRAGEDY
remix EPs.
* The footage for the video to 'Mindphaser' by Front Line Assembly
was taken from the Japanese movie 'Gunhed.' Gunhed stands for 'Gun
UNit Heavy Elimination Device'. The original release was in Japan
in July 1989. The US version followed in 1991.
* Laibach's politics does not take sides in anything. Laibach is
part of a collective of artists called NSK or Neue Slowenische
Kunst. Upon entrance you are supposed to get rid of your political
views. Laibach are merely 'by-standers' and commentators in our
world of chaos. The most important point though is that
totalitarianism and oppression are not exclusive to facism but
also to: communism, christianity and capitalistic consumerism.
Since the entire NSK bases its work on the retro principle, it
means that the facist imagery is real (taken from actual Nazi art)
and the music also is based on music originally not composed by
Laibach. The most clear cut examples are: the Beatles, Queen, and
Opus; the glorified Macbeth is nothing more than a re-make of some
classical stuff.
What makes Laibach very unique though, is the overall designs of
their work. They ususally manage to collage one idea with its
opposite. Some of the artwork included on their disks was
originally done by anti-Nazi activists; however, its
out-of-context use leads one to associate it with Nazis. Laibach
stresses the idea that one can't be sure of the real meaning of
symbolism, that no one knows all of the history.
There are at least two radically different versions of Kapital,
the CD version is missing a track and most tracks are remixed from
the MC version.
* The proper spelling for the band Negativland is without the 'e'.
Their name was lifted from the Neu album BLACK FOREST GATEAU. On
that album one can find tracks named "Negativland" and "Seeland."
The first one is obviously the band name, and the second is the
name of the band's record label (before they signed to SST, of
course). Negativland means "negative country" or "country of
negativity" in German and Seeland means "country of the sea."
* It is important to note that Nine Inch Nails is essentially one
person, Trent Reznor from Cleveland (he does tour with a band but
they don't appear on the album Pretty Hate Machine). However, on
the more recent albums, Reznor is joined by other
performers/producers on various songs (Martin Atkins plays some
drums on Broken, J.G. Thirlwell remixed two songs on Fixed, Adrian
Belew plays guitar on a couple songs from The Downward Spiral).
* Butt Fuck Parlor Time (a.k.a. BFPT) is not a real NIN album.
* The correct definition of Einstuerzende Neubauten is "collapsing
new buildings" where "collapsing" is an adjective, not a verb.
examples:
einstuerzen
v., to collapse
einstuerzende
adj., collapsing, in a state of collapse
* According to the radio-promo release of 'Interim' the name is
pronounced: INE-SHTUR-ZEN-DEH NOY-BOUT-TEN
* "Neubauten" generally refers to buildings built in a particular
style, rather than to any recently constructed buildings. The
style in question is the impersonal concrete-box modernist style.
Most housing projects (especially the huge towers built in the
60's) are perfect examples of Neubauten.
* Einstuerzende Neubauten chose their name when the Berlin
'Kongresshalle' collapsed around 1980. The building is located
close to the Reichstag and was a gift of the US allies to the city
of Berlin. The Kongresshalle is shaped a bit like an oyster, was
used for all kinds of exhibitions and meetings and finally
collapsed due to its cheap 60's concrete/metal construction. A
journalist died, a few more were injured and several cars were
smashed. After a rather long public discussion the Berlin
government decided to rebuild the Kongresshalle since it was a
symbol for the friendship between Germany and the US.
Additionally, to be strictly correct on a Western keyboard, it
should be Einstuerzende (the proper way to indicate an umlaut [ë]
over the 'u' is to just write it as 'ue').
Note, that I have chosen to use the "ue" instead of " [ë]." This
makes the formatting correct when this is converted to HTML.
* Alain Jourgensen (of Ministry fame) is not and never was a member
of Pigface.
* "Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv" (I've also seen it as
"Sozialistische Patienten Klink") or SPK named themselves after a
group of mental patients who formed an anarchist collective
(inspired by the Baader-Meinhoff Gang) and then blew themselves up
trying to make explosives. Their name changed on every release to
phrases such as "Systems Planning Korporation", "Surgical Penis
Klinik" and "SePpuKu."
* Concerning folks in sKINNY pUPPY: Nivek Ogre's real name is Kevin
Ogilvie. He grew up in Calgary.
* David Ogilvie is of no relation to Ogre, the same last names are a
coincidence. He moved to Vancouver from Montreal in the very early
80's. David Ogilvie's nickname is "Rave" and has been for a very
long time. Rave's wife (Rosie) is credited as "Mowse" on the old
CLEANSE, FOLD & MANIPULATE track 'Tear or Beat'.
* All of the above (and the other members of the Vancouver cadre)
are very nickname-happy. cEVIN and Dwayne both have nicknames as
well. Other people outside the camp get branded with nicknames if
they're around Rave or Ogre too long. Just because sometimes
"Rave" is listed and sometimes the more formal "David Ogilvie" is
listed doesn't mean they aren't the same person. There are credits
that say "Ogre" just as there are credits that say "K. Ogilvie".
* "Green guy" is a context-sensitive descriptor. It can mean a
particularly potent form of Pot, or the person who is the delivery
boy for said Pot. it is also used as in the credits for some pUPPY
albums.
* Everyone thinks that BACK AND FORTH exists in 50 copies. After
all, it does say words to that effect on it, right? This is not
the case. There's only 35 real copies. cEVIN made all of them
himself. He "pooped out" after those 35, so #36-#50 don't exist.
There's more. Of those 35 copies, there's "Mark I" and "Mark II".
The first 10 (or was it 15?) were hand- dubbed by cEVIN from the
four-track master. Those are the "good" ones. The remainder were
dup'ed on a high-speed double-cassette deck, and are thus deemed
(by cEVIN) to be of "lower quality".
* BACK AND FORTH has been re-issued on CD. it is the first part
along with other "rarities" and unreleased material as part of a
"10 year Skinny Puppy retrospective CD" that is in the works. The
BAD news is that it (B&F) is *re-mixed* and not just re-issued :-(
It is being re-done by "Hi-Watt" Marshall, the guy who engineered
the last Hilt album. (Rave Ogilvie is livid over this.) There are
two flavors of the re-issued Back and Forth CD: the regular
limited edition release and the "ultra" limited edition release
that comes packaged in a steel box with a numbered and signed
photo.
* the recording of sKINNY pUPPY's AIN'T IT DEAD YET was mastered as
one long track because it's intended to be listened to from start
to finish, like watching a concert. In order to get the whole
experience, you have to listen to the whole thing.
* For LAST RIGHTS, "song 4 on side 2" of the cassette is the same
thing as "song 10 on the CD" which is the same thing as "Left
Handshake", the track that samples Timothy Leary from "Tune in,
turn on, drop out" which is the same track that isn't there
because the copyright holders on said Timothy Leary quoted speech
rescinded permission for the band to use the samples. It may
emerge as a one-sided 7", to be given away to people at their
upcoming tour shows if you buy some tour merchandise; or it may
suddenly appear out of (K)nowhere courtesy of some annoited
bootleggers. It has also been reported that Leary is working to
get the rights to his speech back so SP can use it. It is now
available on the FTP site listed below.
* Skinny Puppy does maintain an FTP site. ftp.netcom.com in the
/pub/puppy directory.
* Re: Tear Garden's album, TIRED EYES SLOWLY BURNING, the credits in
vinyl copies for the song "You and Me and Rainbows" clearly state:
Edward Ka-Spel: Voice, keyboards, tapes
cEVIN Key: Keyboards, rhythm box, guitar, radio, tapes, voice
D. Rudolph Goettel: Keyboards
Lee Salford: Drums
N. Ogre: Voice
Lisa: Lady voice
Rave: Guitar, tapes
Note that "Lee Salford" was the drummer for Section 25 at one
time, and "Lisa" is a woman who I believe was Cevin's girlfriend
at the time.
* 1000 Homo DJs work was originally done as an Al Jourgensen solo
project concurrent with the LAND OF RAPE AND HONEY work. The vinyl
EP of APATHY was released about six months post LORAH. When Al
decided that Trent Reznor should do the vocals for 'Supernaut',
Steve Gotlieb (president of TVT), who was already unhappy with
Trent because of his legal filings against him, told Wax Trax that
any productions using Trent Reznor's voice is in violation of
Trent's contract with TVT. So the CD5 was released with the
original Jourgenson vocals. the CD5 itself was released containing
the two new songs, 'Supernaut' and 'Hey Asshole' as well as what
was on the APATHY EP, 'Apathy' and 'Better Ways'.
* KMFDM stands for Kein Mitleid fuer die Mehrheit which in English
means "No pity For The Majority." It has been argued that the name
really means nothing because the liner notes for their album, WHAT
DO YOU KNOW, DEUTSCHLAND (WaxTrax! Records) have it listed as
meaning:
"Kein Mehrheit fuer die Mitleid"
however, the proper use of the prhase would be:
"Kein Mitleid fuer die Mehrheit"
(mit=with,leid=pain -> Pity; Mehr=more,heit=-ness -> Majority)
which also uses the genders correctly.
* Other uses such as "Kill Mother Fucking Depeche Mode", "Krispy
Mutant Fish Dealing Mescaline" or even "Kyle Minogue Fans Don't
Masturbate" is just a joke.
* Survival Research Labs now has an answering machine system which
you can get info from. Unfortunately, the current messages do not
give any dates for performances. It does however have a menu which
allows you to get info on past shows, legal problems, being an SRL
volunteer, and current machines working or being developed. Call:
1 + 415 641-8065.
They also have an FTP site, but I lost the address. If someone
could forward it, I'd appreciate it.
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